Brace yourself for a candid conversation about the urgent and often hidden issues of violence and digital abuse against women. Dani Pinter, Senior Legal Counsel for the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, joins us to pull back the curtain on the alarming reality of non-consensual sexual exploitation online. We confront shocking statistics and explore the staggering impact of these crimes on victims, as Dani shares insights into the history and mission of her organization to combat these deeply entrenched societal problems.Our discussion takes a hard look at image-based sexual abuse and the complex landscape of legal accountability surrounding platforms like Backpage and Pornhub. We draw parallels between past legal actions against industries like big tobacco and current efforts to hold websites responsible for enabling exploitation. The conversation highlights the alarming rise of voyeuristic content and fake sexual images created by AI, as we unravel the challenges of curbing these offenses in the digital age and the significant implications for privacy and consent.Navigating the murky waters of online accountability, we tackle the barriers victims face as they seek justice and content removal. The conversation zeroes in on Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, emphasizing the urgent need for legal reform to empower victims and hold tech companies accountable. We also spotlight the progress made in addressing image-based sexual abuse, including amendments to the Violence Against Women Act, marking key steps toward more robust legal protections. Join us as we chart a path forward in advocating for victims and challenging societal norms and institutional practices.

Detective Brandon Wootan joins us to uncover the transformative impact of Domestic Violence High-Risk Teams in preventing intimate partner homicides. Drawing from his extensive law enforcement background, Detective Wootan shares the approach that has dramatically reduced fatalities in his jurisdiction, where a staggering 40% of homicides are linked to domestic violence. Learn how these multidisciplinary teams bridge the gap between law enforcement, prosecutors, and service providers, creating a united front against domestic violence and prioritizing long-term support for survivors, especially within the Latinx community.From this discussion listeners will grasp the core components of these high-risk teams—early identification, improved offender monitoring, and a collaborative response—that make them a powerful force in combating domestic violence. Drawing from the groundbreaking work of experts like Dr. Jacquelyn Campbell and the pioneering efforts of the Geiger Institute, we discover how evidence-based risk assessments play a pivotal role in identifying potentially lethal situations. You will also learn about the seamless collaboration that has not only revolutionized the judicial process but also provided a lifeline for at-risk individuals.We also discuss Light the Way Consulting, a project inspired by Detective Wootan's personal experiences that is dedicated to helping agencies nationwide establish their own high-risk teams. We explore how this initiative aims to foster societal change by reshaping how domestic violence is perceived and handled and paves the way for safer communities and a more supportive environment for survivors.

Unlock the secrets of Investigative Genetic Genealogy (IGG) as we welcome former FBI trailblazers Steve Busch and Steve Kramer. Discover how this innovative method is revolutionizing law enforcement by solving cold cases and active investigations alike. Learn about the compelling case of actress Eva LaRue, who endured years of torment from a stalker, and how IGG finally brought him to justice. Our guests take you inside the high-profile pursuit and capture of the Golden State Killer, showcasing the power of IGG to solve one of the longest serial killer mysteries of our time and bring closure to families and victims.We also explore the fascinating intersection of DNA technology and law enforcement with our experts as they reveal the creative strategies behind using public genealogy databases. From the historic Golden State Killer case to the recent breakthrough in the Idaho student murders, hear how IGG is becoming a standard tool for invesitgations and ultimately, justice. Our conversation also delves into the founding of Indago Solutions (indago is latin for "to hunt"), where AI is harnessed to propel investigative methods into the future, accelerating the hunt for answers through machine learning. In doing so, solving cold cases and apprehending serial offenders can happen in less than half the time as using traditional methods. Steve Busch and Steve Kramer also help us navigate the complexities of privacy and DNA collection as we delve into the delicate balance between solving crimes and respecting individual rights. Through captivating anecdotes, we discuss the legalities of DNA collection and the unique case prioritization process in law enforcement. With over 1.3 million profiles waiting for resolution in CODIS, our discussion underscores the urgency of embracing faster methods like IGG. We also break down the nuances between genealogy and law enforcement DNA profiles, highlighting the potential of genetic genealogy to illuminate even the darkest of cases.

Discover the groundbreaking world of investigative genetic genealogy (IGG) with our guest, Leighton D'Antoni, a seasoned prosecutor and DOJ-certified expert in forensic genetic genealogy. Join us as Leighton takes us on his transformative journey from defense attorney to a leading figure in cold case prosecutions, shedding light on the innovative methods that are reshaping how violent crimes are solved. Learn how his passion for justice and the Sexual Assault Kit Initiative (SAKI) has revolutionized the approach to sexual assault cases in Dallas.This episode offers invaluable insights into the distinctions between IGG, forensic genealogy, and familial DNA searching as Leighton recounts his pivotal role in the successful prosecution of serial rapist Christopher Michael Green. This episode reveals how traditional investigative work meshes with advanced DNA technologies, such as SNP and STR testing, and emphasizes the collaborative efforts required to solve complex cases. We'll also discuss the potential of IGG databases to surpass traditional CODIS systems in effectiveness, thanks to their higher success rates in linking DNA profiles to potential relatives.Finally, we explore the profound impact of a victim-centered approach in seeking justice for marginalized communities. Leighton shares his firsthand experiences of building trust with survivors and the dedication necessary to pursue truth and justice, even in the face of historical skepticism. This episode underscores the importance of believing and supporting victims, ensuring their voices are heard and their cases are brought to resolution. Don't miss this enlightening conversation that not only highlights the strides made in prosecuting offenders but also honors the resilience of survivors in their pursuit of justice.

Can the family court system really be trusted to protect victims of abuse? Join us for a powerful and eye-opening episode as we welcome Dr. Christine Cocchiola and Amy Polacko, authors of the groundbreaking book "Framed: Women in the Family Court Underworld." Together, we tackle the systemic issues that plague family courts, often framing women as perpetrators rather than victims. Through their personal and professional experiences, Dr. Cocchiola and Amy Polacko reveal how patriarchal social conditioning and ingrained misogyny perpetuate these injustices, emphasizing the urgent need for greater awareness and education among legal and mental health professionals.We share harrowing stories from "Framed," featuring 22 women from across the US, UK, Canada, and Australia who have faced abuse and manipulation within the family court system. This episode highlights the shocking tactics used by abusive partners and the profound emotional, physical, and financial toll on the victims. As we explore these heart-wrenching narratives, the urgent need for systemic change becomes glaringly apparent. We dive deep into the concept of coercive control, illustrating how it serves as a gateway to more overt forms of abuse and how it is often overlooked by the courts.In our final segment, we focus on the crucial reforms needed to protect victims of abuse within the family court system. We discuss the inspiring efforts of advocates like Tina Swithin and the significance of grassroots movements in driving systemic change. The conversation underscores the importance of legislative action, collaboration among advocacy groups, and the necessity of believing and supporting victims. By spreading awareness through resources like "Framed," we hope to encourage societal involvement and push for changes that prioritize the safety and well-being of children and protective parents. Listen in as we advocate for better support and understanding within legal and social frameworks.

Ever wondered how our justice system can better support victims of sexual assault and domestic violence? Join us as Fara Gold, attorney advisor for the Office on Violence Against Women, breaks down the Department of Justice's groundbreaking framework designed to enhance the prosecution of these critical cases. This episode promises valuable insights into building collaborative relationships among prosecutors, investigators, and victim advocates, ensuring a trauma-informed approach that treats victims with the utmost humanity and respect.We'll uncover why building trust early in the prosecutorial process is paramount and explore a comprehensive guide developed by 120 experts to strengthen community confidence and offender accountability. By dissecting societal misconceptions and the gender biases ingrained in our legal system, we highlight the necessity of treating victims with fairness and objectivity. Fara shares poignant examples and actionable strategies for overcoming these challenges, revealing how prosecutors can better meet and support victims from the onset.Finally, we navigate the intricate landscape of prosecuting complex cases, such as those involving sexual assault by private prisoner transport officers. Fara emphasizes the significance of corroborative evidence and expert testimony in addressing trauma-induced inconsistencies in victim accounts. We also discuss the pivotal roles of victim specialists within the judicial system, offering a clearer understanding of their essential support in trial preparations. This episode is a must-listen for anyone committed to advancing justice and ensuring a compassionate, trauma-informed legal process.Please find the  prosecutor guide here: Office on Violence Against Women (OVW) | Prosecutor Guide (justice.gov)

How did Billy Chemirmir manage to infiltrate the lives of numerous elderly women and execute his sinister plots undetected? Join us as Glenn Fitzmartin, Deputy Administrator at the Dallas County District Attorney's Office, reveals chilling details about Chemirmir's methods and the harrowing story of survivor Mary Bartell, whose brave testimony was key to cracking the case. Discover the investigative hurdles and breakthroughs that led to Chemirmir's indictment for over 20 capital murders.Explore the relentless pursuit of justice in the face of challenges, including a mistrial and the complexities of prosecuting a serial murderer. Learn about the critical coordination between law enforcement agencies and the strategic decisions that culminated in successful convictions. Through phone records, pawn shop transactions, and meticulous evidence gathering, the prosecution demonstrated unwavering determination, ultimately securing justice for the victims and their grieving families.Finally, we address the pressing need for heightened security in retirement communities. Delve into specific incidents that exposed the vulnerabilities in these environments and the efforts to advocate for stronger protective measures. By drawing parallels to security protocols in schools, we underscore the importance of vigilance and legislative action to prevent future tragedies. Listen and gain insights into the profound impact of community, security, and the undying quest for justice in safeguarding our elderly population.

Equipping law enforcement with comprehensive training and the right tools is crucial for the effective investigation of intimate partner violence (IPV) cases. In this episode, we talk with seasoned investigator Kimberly Orts who underscores the importance of treating these cases with the same seriousness as other major crimes, focusing on meticulous evidence collection and scene evaluation. Kimberly sheds light on the critical intersection of law enforcement and prosecution, illustrating how detailed documentation and sensory details can greatly impact future cases. From the use of body-worn cameras to the importance of capturing emotional states and behaviors, this episode provides essential knowledge for law enforcement professionals committed to enhancing the safety and support for survivors of intimate partner violence. We also explore essential techniques for on-scene and follow-up investigations, highlighting how effective report and affidavit writing can capture the dynamics of control and fear to support successful prosecutions.

Under the weight of a silent crisis, an unsung hero emerges: the 911 dispatcher. In this episode we bring to light the heroic efforts of these individuals with subject matter expert April Hines from NENA, in a discussion that promises to deepen your understanding of the critical role these professionals play in responding to crimes against women. The alarming frequency of gender-based violence calls for a swift and knowledgeable response, and we reveal the layers of training and decision-making that equip dispatchers to handle each call with the precision and empathy it demands.April Hines adds depth to our conversation, sharing her expertise on the protocols that guide dispatchers in crisis situations. Together we uncover how emergency response systems have evolved, from the legacy of Kitty Genovese to today's advanced 911 operations. Our discourse spans the development of policies, the execution of best practices in dire situations, and the essential contribution of bystanders—all pivotal in the orchestration of a prompt, life-saving response. The intricacies of managing calls for domestic and sexual violence are dissected, painting a picture of a network of dispatchers who serve as the first glimmer of hope for many.Our episode concludes on a note of compassion for the dispatchers themselves, who are often unsung heroes bearing the emotional toll of emergency response. We explore the industry's transformation in acknowledging and supporting the mental health of these vital workers. From wellness programs to the integration of specialist support systems, we offer insight into how 911 centers nurture the well-being of their staff. As we wrap up, you'll leave with a profound appreciation for the complex tapestry of emergency response and the unwavering dedication of the voices on the other end of the line.

Discover the unsettling truths that Jennifer Becker from the Battered Women's Justice Project brings to light as we scrutinize the lethal crossroads of intimate partner violence and gun violence. We dissect the grim statistics that surround gender-based crimes and the amplified risk of domestic violence homicides when firearms are involved. Jennifer's legal expertise shines a spotlight on the chilling tactics of control and intimidation wielded by abusers, lending a voice to the stark realities faced by countless women.In this episode, we challenge the myths surrounding domestic violence protection orders, revealing their multifaceted importance in safeguarding survivors. These orders are more than mere paper; they offer a lifeline that spans housing, custody, and financial support. We also examine the potential ramifications of Supreme Court decisions on firearm restrictions for those under restraining orders and stress the critical need for community collaboration in the enforcement of domestic violence policies, as fostered by the BWJP, to protect not just the survivors but also the entire community.Finally, we turn our focus to the implementation of laws at the local level to combat gender-based gun violence effectively. From the Battered Women's Justice Project's support for community-tailored policies to the National Resource Center on Domestic Violence and Firearms' four-pronged strategy, we unpack the nuance of disarming abusers and the ongoing efforts to bridge gaps for enhanced survivor protection. 

Dr. Ramani Durvasula, a New York Times bestselling author and the world's foremost expert on narcissism, joins us for an eye opening and candid conversation about narcissism and how to heal from the trauma it causes. Relying heavily on Dr. Ramani's latest book, "It's Not You: Identifying and Healing from Narcissistic People," we peel away the layers of confusion for victims ensnared by charismatic abusers, illuminate the societal shadows where these predators lurk, and chart a course for survivors toward understanding and healing. The episode also clarifies what it means to experience gaslighting, the distinctions between everyday narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and provides a compass for distinguishing between these complex behaviors and their profound effects on intimate relationships. Together, we underscore the power of radical acceptance in the healing process and advocate for the strength found in community and survivorship. This empowering dialogue will not only educate but also extend a lifeline to those seeking clarity and solid ground.

Dr. Georges C. Benjamin, Executive Director of the American Public Health Association, joins us for an urgent discussion about the far-reaching effects of domestic and sexual abuse that threatens not only individuals but also the fabric of society itself. Our conversation traverses the vast landscape of public health, from the quality of the air we breathe to the unseen threats like domestic violence that lurk in the shadows. Dr. Benjamin's passion for making healthy choices accessible to all is a clarion call for change in the way we approach community safety and individual well-being.In this episode we dissect the critical role public health plays in our daily lives, especially amidst crises like the COVID-19 pandemic. With Dr. Benjamin's guidance, we navigate the day-to-day victories achieved through public health initiatives, from clean drinking water to safer roads and effective immunization campaigns. Likewise this episode peels back the layers of our health systems, revealing the intricate network that strives to maintain our collective well-being and the importance of collaboration across various sectors to tackle public health emergencies head on.Finally, we cast an unflinching eye on the unique challenges that underserved populations face when confronting domestic violence. Dr. Benjamin spotlights the American Public Health Association's dedication to inclusive health initiatives and their tireless efforts to prevent violence before it begins. Together, we explore the necessity of building trust and resilience within marginalized communities and the imperative to create a healthier, safer nation for every individual. This is a powerful call to action, urging us to recognize and respond to the public health crisis of domestic violence with the urgency and compassion it demands.

When the right to make decisions about one's body is wrestled away by an intimate partner, the shadows of domestic violence become even darker. Marium Durrani from the National Domestic Violence Hotline joins us to illuminate the often-overlooked issue of reproductive coercion and share the hotline's journey since its 1996 inception, including its response to over 6.8 million pleas for help. Amidst the complexities of this subtle abuse, we underscore the survivor's inherent right to self-determination, especially concerning their reproductive health, and the lifesaving importance of recognizing these manipulative tactics.Survivor stories are more than just tales; they are stark reminders of the reality many face when trapped in relationships marred by reproductive coercion. As we hear these personal accounts, we confront the chilling effects of this abuse—from forced pregnancies to the psychological warfare of threats and societal pressures to remain silent. We dissect the abusive mindset that views reproductive control as a weapon, and discuss strategies to empower and protect those caught in such daunting circumstances.Through the National Domestic Violence Hotline's user-friendly website and comprehensive services, we show that help is within reach for those facing domestic violence. Each story, each call for help, is a building block towards a future where violence and coercion have no place, and the hotline is at the forefront of this transformative mission.

Joining forces with Sergeant Michael Wilmore-Crumrine, we venture into the complex terrain of gender-based violence and the unique struggles within the LGBTQI+ community. With Sgt. Wilmore-Crumrine's background in law enforcement and his drive for advocacy, our conversation peels back layers on the societal factors that fuel such violence, and how those most vulnerable are often unfairly blamed. His own path to policing, marked by a dedication to standing up to bullies and seeking justice, sets the stage as we explore the inception of the Lesbian and Gay Peace Officers Association in Austin, Texas, and its vital role in creating a more inclusive and secure environment for everyone.The heartbeat of this episode thrums with the theme of inclusivity, particularly within the echelons of law enforcement. We confront the reality of biases—be it homophobia or transphobia—that can erode the very foundation of trust communities have in their police force. Sgt. Wilmore-Crumrine illuminates the intersectional challenges that compound the experiences of LGBTQI+ individuals, especially when they intersect with other marginalized identities. He advocates for rigorous training and the establishment of national standards that promise equal protection and respect for each citizen, no matter their background.Capping off our enlightening discussion, we tackle the pivotal role of expert witnesses in LGBTQI+ cases, and how their expertise on trauma and victim behavior is indispensable in the courtroom. Sgt. Wilmore-Crumrine shares a compelling narrative of a case involving a male serial rapist, highlighting the systemic obstacles faced by victims from marginalized groups. 

As Detective Kelly Downey unravels the haunting narrative of "Christine," a woman ensnared by her spouse through her car's GPS, we confront the sobering reality of tech-enabled abuse. Our discussion with digital safety expert Adam Dodge ventures beyond physical violence to expose the psychological and technological warfare waged in abusive relationships. This episode strips bare the complexities of car stalking and the severe implications for victims' safety, questioning the accountability of car companies and the effectiveness of current legislation in protecting those at risk.Peeling back the layers of vehicle tracking apps, we reveal the unsettling truth about modern stalking tactics, where abusers exploit the very tools meant to provide convenience and security. Our conversation takes a critical look at the automotive industry's privacy practices, or lack thereof, and the obstacles law enforcement face when seeking cooperation from tech giants. We spotlight the bold steps necessary to safeguard personal privacy in an era where technology can be both an ally and an adversary.In response to the pervasive threat of digital harassment, we share innovative strategies and resources that offer victims a lifeline. Encrypted messaging and vigilant digital hygiene become shields against abusers, while legislative strides in phone number portability present a beacon of hope. 

Confronting the shadows of abuse and the resilience of the human spirit, author Rachel Louise Snyder joins us for an unsettling yet vital conversation in our latest episode. With her raw and deeply personal memoir, "Women we Buried, Women we Burned," Rachel doesn't just recount her own experiences with abuse and addiction, but illuminates the pernicious societal structures that sustain violence against women and children. We traverse the often-misunderstood dynamics of familial abuse, the failures of legal and support systems to grasp the full picture, and the complexities involved in ending abuse without severing the ties that bind.The dialogue takes a turn into darker territories as we explore the devastating realm of child abuse within religious institutions and the tumultuous landscape of foster care, sharing insights from her own life-changing stint in Cambodia. These experiences unearth a profound understanding of abuse and trauma that transcends cultures and borders. As Rachel's narrative gains traction with the possibility of adaptation for a Netflix series, we underscore the increasing need for these critical stories to be shared and recognized in mainstream media, paving the way for change and awareness.Wrapping up the episode, we pause to acknowledge the healing power of books, and the beacon of hope they represent for those in the throes of overcoming abuse. The upcoming 2024 Conference on Crimes Against Women stands as a testament to this commitment, promising to shine a light on these issues and foster a community of support and understanding. Join us for this profound discussion, where stories of adversity are met with unyielding hope, and the conviction that conversations like these can truly make a difference.

The very streets of Dallas light up with a somber blue, a hue that's become the rallying cry against the night's darkest secret – human trafficking. It was a privilege to have Bianca Davis, CEO of New Friends, New Life, join us to unravel this crisis that casts shadows over our city. With January marking National Human Trafficking Prevention Month, our conversation wove through the brutal realities of the trade, the importance of vigilance, and the powerful legislative milestones that propel our fight forward.Faced with the chilling statistic of four hundred trafficked teen girls a night in Dallas alone, the magnitude of this issue is staggering. We dug into the subtle yet coercive tactics that traffickers use to ensnare victims, often exploiting the most vulnerable among us. Awareness is our strongest weapon, and this dialogue serves as an urgent call to action for all. It's not just about recognizing the signs; it's about understanding the hidden languages of control and manipulation that traffickers speak. And it's not only about the victims but also the demand that fuels this black-market industry. Engaging men in the conversation around sex trafficking, through innovative programs like the manKINDness Project, is pivotal in dismantling the societal constructs that allow such exploitation to thrive. In crafting a future free from these chains, we highlighted the vital partnerships between support networks like Genesis and New Friends New Life. Their collaborative efforts not only rescue survivors but also equip them with the tools to rebuild and thrive. Our episode is a clarion call – a plea for engagement and education in the digital age where predators lurk behind screens, targeting our youth. Together, we can turn awareness into action and transform the narrative of human trafficking.

Every January, we're reminded of the chilling reality of stalking and its devastating repercussions. This month, we echo the courage of Debbie Riddle, who transformed her grief into advocacy after the murder of her sister Peggy by a stalker. Together with Jennifer Landhuis from the Stalking Prevention Awareness and Resource Center (SPARC), we tackle the difficult nuances of stalking, from the subtle signs to the overt, with a critical eye on how law enforcement and the public acknowledge and respond to such danger. Their insights expose the gaps in our system and ignite a vital discussion on the need for consistent intervention against this crime.The narrative of Peggy's ordeal is both heartbreaking and a powerful catalyst for change. Debbie's relentless pursuit to raise stalking awareness has not only memorialized her sister but has also pioneered educational reforms. We reflect on the systemic failures that had dire consequences and highlight the importance of initiatives like Stalking Awareness Month. By examining Debbie's journey and Jennifer's expertise, the episode underlines the crucial role of education and the immediate need for law enforcement to develop a deeper understanding and more effective protocols when facing stalking cases.As we wrap up this intense episode, we underscore the importance of community response and SPARC's role in providing resources to better address stalking cases. We delve into the trainings offered to criminal justice agencies, the alarming prevalence of stalking, and the available support systems on college campuses. This session is not just a tribute to Peggy but a call to action for everyone to participate in the national day of action against stalking, to bring awareness and to restore a sense of safety for those affected. 

Family courts have a crucial role in ensuring the safety and well-being of families, particularly those experiencing domestic violence. However, numerous systemic failures and hidden truths in these courts have recently come under scrutiny. This episode with Joan Meier, a distinguished lawyer and clinical law professor, aims to shed light on these significant issues.Joan Meier has dedicated her career to rectifying injustices in civil cases, from contentious custody battles to protection orders. She has notably founded and worked with DV Leap, an organization instrumental in providing an essential lifeline to survivors of domestic violence. Despite their commendable efforts, considerable gaps in the legal system persist, emphasizing the urgent call for more resources to aid victims.One significant issue discussed in this episode is the impact of domestic violence on child custody cases. Our conversation is fueled by insights from an extensive study on the denial of family violence in court. Family law sends mixed messages, with a high occurrence of abuse in child custody cases and a formidable struggle faced by victims in court. It's alarming how family courts handle abuse allegations, often dismissing or undermining them.We also delve into the controversial subject of parental alienation. This theory, often misused to discredit mothers who allege abuse by their ex-partners, contributes to the gender bias present in family courts. The gender bias is not only reflected in the treatment of mothers expressing concerns about their children's safety but also in the significant emphasis on fathering, which can lead to harmful outcomes in custody cases.The episode concludes with a passionate advocacy for better representation for children in family court, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging their voices., urging for improved training of court personnel, debunking alienation claims, and a more active role for appellate courts in protecting children from dangerous situations. This episode also underscores the urgent need for systemic change in the family court system, highlighting that the fight against domestic violence extends far beyond the household's walls.The information discussed in this episode is a sobering reminder of the struggles faced by survivors of domestic violence in the family court system. It underlines the urgent need for changes to better protect and serve those who are most vulnerable. As Joan Meier aptly points out, there's a pressing need for systemic change in family courts, and we must continue to push for this to protect survivors and their children. The fight for justice continues, and we hope this conversation will inspire action and bring about much-needed reform in the family court system.

In this episode we explore the intricate dynamics of family courts with Dr. Bandy Lee. Dr. Lee, an expert in violence hailing from Yale School of Medicine and Yale Law School, as well as the current president of the World Mental Health Coalition, delves into the tactics used by domestic violence offenders within the legal system and the profound consequences these actions have on family courts.Family courts, which are meant to be havens of justice and protection, can unfortunately turn into challenging battlegrounds for victims of domestic abuse. In many cases, abusive partners, predominantly fathers, exploit these systems to manipulate and distance their victims, typically mothers, from their children. This manipulation perpetuates a cycle of power and control that can have severe mental, emotional, and financial consequences. Dr. Lee's insights provide a sobering perspective on the unhealthy patterns that can emerge within these courtrooms.Our discussion doesn't end at the courtroom doors. We will also shed light on the often-overlooked issue of reunification camps and the questionable practices that occur within them. Through an in-depth exploration of the Catherine Kassenhoff case, we aim to uncover the underlying problems within these institutions. As we wrap up our conversation, we will explore potential solutions to rectify these injustices and offer a preview of Dr. Lee's forthcoming book on the family court crisis.The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speaker(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.