In the summer of 2018, host Lindsay Peoples wrote a piece called Everywhere and Nowhere, What it’s Really Like to be Black and Work in Fashion. It shook the table and ushered in a conversation on race in the industry. She interviewed over 100 people, including designer Tracy Reese—who's been working in fashion for more than five decades. For the fifth anniversary of the piece, Lindsay spoke to Tracy about what's changed, how far the industry has come, and how much work still needs to be done. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices