In this episode of Fraudish, Kelly talks to Barbara Siegenthaler, a lawyer based in Switzerland. They discuss a range of topics including conduct risk, ethics, and the distinction between Safety 1 and Safety 2 methodologies. Barbara shares her insights from her recent paper on global conduct risk and methodologies, touching on the importance of anthropology, behavioral science, and human factors in analyzing conduct risk. They also explore PSI theory and the role of AI in conduct risk assessments. The episode concludes with a discussion on Taylor Swift that you won’t want to miss! Links: Connect with Barabara! https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-r-siegenthaler/Her website and her publications.